Dissident Veteran For Peace: Why won't anyone say they are Jewish?

Dissident Veteran For Peace

"I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America." --Alexis de Tocquevile. Democracy in America, Book I, Chapter XV.

With a nod to the Most Rev. Dom Helder Camara: When I support Palestinians some call me an 'anti-Semite', when I try to explain why I stand in solidarity with Palestinians they call me a Nazi.

"WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." —Major General Smedley Butler, USMC (ret.)

"... no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end." —character of O'Brien in 1984, part 3, ch. 3 by George Orwell.

"Every prophet has realized that nobody loves you for being the enemy of their illusions. Every prophet has realized that most of us want peace at any price as long as the peace is ours and somebody else pays the price. That is why the prophet Jeremiah said, ' "Peace, peace," they say, when there is no peace,' ..." —The Rev. William Sloane Coffin. "Not to Bring Peace, But a Sword."

Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Why won't anyone say they are Jewish?

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Labels: Jews, Neoconservatives, War

# posted by VFPDissident @ 4/16/2008 08:58:00 PM

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Question: So what if they're Jewish?

# posted by

nomes : Friday, April 18, 2008 11:19:00 AM

The article in question commits the ad hominem fallacy. The writer thinks we need to know that certain influential persons are Jewish. We do not. Rather we need to debate U.S. foreign policy on the merits of the issues. In the exchange
A; “we should support Israel”
B: “you’re Jewish”
-- B, in addition to displaying an ugly mind, is failing to offer an argument, perhaps because that might require effort.

# posted by

Anonymous : Thursday, November 24, 2011 9:25:00 PM

The author, Kalle Lasn, does not commit the ad hominem fallacy. According to the Fallacy Files: "A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he introduces irrelevant personal premises about his opponent." The operative word here would be "irrelevant" i.e. is the Jewish background of the neo-Cons irrelevant to their support for Israel? Having read the work of several neo-Cons I think you'd be hard-pressed to find very many who would deny that their Jewishness and their support for Israel are related. Lasn does not take your B position. You seem to be guilty of the Straw Man fallacy: "A straw man argument occurs in the context of a debate―formal or informal―when one side attacks a position―the "straw man"―not held by the other side ..."

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Fallacy Buster : Monday, October 22, 2012 9:58:00 PM